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stress and the real questions are well, the west, the willing to accept the new realities a will ask of nations continue to turn to russia for stronger partnerships. typically a piece of our team. like curious, white global affairs and elizabeth oh hi. believe they've given the already poor track record in this, i have a region, it's unlikely the nigeria will now open. it's arms to us on french forces during january would network periods. i can tell you that because we, we were concerned already. we are, we have seen that wherever they will choose, that they do not break. i mean doesn't, it doesn't hurt. you know, she shouldn't, for change and it's hard for me please. uh, it is a positive way, right? i just brings programs on there. if you look at the kids, so for the shift for us and you know, moving french on the u. s. i b, c dot phone 3 are suffered more than most of our phones,
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now thanks for watching. i'll see you again the the hello and welcome to cross dog boulevards on peter lavelle. here we discussed the real news background, the cam run and nature were doubling down on ukraine and or anti is really protests on campus as significant. how do they compare with previous spouts of student activism? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel,
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we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals and america. yes, we have martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator, right general and cross dipoles and effect. that means can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with george in, in budapest, there was a pattern here developing george every time the president of france and many well regret and speaks to the economist. he causes a lot of mist yet. okay. um, any shatter is that, that claim that nato is completely locks that unit by because every time he speaks to the economists, he gets a lot of other nato members, important ones, like the u. k, that disagrees with him. so what did he say this time? the to later take away as were and this is about the introduction of french troops or nato troops deliver, really clear to me what the translator should make that clear, but he does it. um, so nato troops are french troops with inter ukraine,
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if ukrainian lines were breaking. well, they are break it. okay. the 2nd one is a few q requests. so i have to read a request for assistance. i just have to wonder, it is much going to have his phone disconnected because i think they would have called by now. george, what do you draw from this will talk about david cameron, who should have disappeared from public life forever, but the fact. so let's talk about mccauley. bruce, for us today, right the, the, it's a very head scratching experience. 11 has one, but this is that these interviews with back wrong because he expounds at great length without ever really explaining what he means. so he declares that, oh, well, he wants these introduction of as you say, it's not clear with his french troops. old native truth. i assume you would like nato chose, but as a backup,
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just in case he doesn't get the nato troops that he just says french troops. well, because he wants to create strategic ambiguity. it. so he wants pull to, uh, to be uncertain in his own mind. what he wants to do, and then he says, and then he just it by the, by say, oh yeah, but um, you know, with the, we've been putting all these limits on what we've done in the past. but tolkien has no limits on what he does, which of course is complete nonsense because the boot in a shown himself to be extremely limited in his goals in the ukraine. and then he says as you say, well if you bring in lines of breaking, which is what it, what does he mean by that? um, is they breaking now? so uh does he say is this. um they have as zalinski, oscar full of french troops and he said, bug so far, he hasn't dos. okay, well, how about tomorrow he's gonna use go to us. what do you,
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what are you going to do then? so he thinks that he's being very cute here. i think, oh, i'm creating some of these. you can do it to, you know, go to now there's no one of what one i'm going to do. and that's a and that's a good thing for us. but it really isn't, because now is the said it's several times and he's got to be eventually cold up that you're gonna just keep blah say without getting cold up on your bluff. i forget what kind of big duty and strategic confusion are. 2 different things. you know, martin well, i think, you know, we've seen enough of hollywood builds that mean, if you go into a bar and you want to pick a fight, you better not be bluffing. you better be prepared to fight. i think that this is the confusion, big mac chrome is a sending out a not only within the nature world but addressing the russians. so it seems like confusion not in beauty to me. yeah, i think um, well, wasn't it nickel? i'm so you said a couple of years ago when describing they said that it was brain dead. i think this is really to print a narrative now that he's indulging in, unlike any,
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the solo speeches, the sort of chops that he has with jealous of this sort of coal censor done isn't, isn't that, you know, you have to publish what he says. if your economy is solely or you used to take out full page in the toilets and the tell her girlfriend and the front edition the and, and also longer because he really believes that he is a lovely, that he really believes that he is a little icon and the anglo saxon wisdom, well, i'm because he isn't. and that's where the problem, you know, and that's why you need to keep doing this because it's an idea that he has that he's a world leader and he has that kind of implants. and what's really going on there, you know, is this really serious? you know, you mentioned them big usa, i think is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. not really much of it make sense talking about the russians breaking through the ukrainian lines. that would be the training and lines that don't exist because ukrainians took the money from the americans to build this so called national line, but they didn't actually build it in the end. so what's the,
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what's the ones that have, you know, breaking through the printed lines, but, you know, what's really going on, i've written, it might have totals and painted before on the show about these mac chrome polemic . you know, this is that some digital realty about starting uploading. and what do you really want to do is scan them, got a number of a human mistake in particular hungry into things that look if you don't sign off on the 100000000000 dollar packets that we've got in the pipeline from day. so, you know, new blocks that we're just going to be a massive failure for, for the west of the lease. if it doesn't go through, if you, if you don't sign off on that, then we can result of this. and you being in the region, you know, you being a, on the boulder, you're going to be really at the, one of the countries. it's going to be a hit, the hardest if we start to go back and say the amount of mess, this is not a mess that should the russians. it's a message to other nato members. yeah, i do show your show. know that and then george, i mean it's also public opinion that he needs to look like
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a leader or something like that. and you know, it's still championing his inner boat or par to george. i mean the billing, i mean i it just, i mean they do, they both are small med i mean that that works at least on here. okay. thats charged me. no i i think so. um. but they also, um, here they gave you, peter alluded to it the other day. there is a um, a desire on the pots of uh, your ups liters. and then the all this includes my fraud, but we're still left on the line and use that barrell to crack down on the european freedom of speech as much as possible and generally the freedom in europe. and what better opportunity is the then where in this stage a rule and really in a bad way because already said, you know, we are a boy with russia. so there is a, a vested interest among europe that leads to whip up wolf of a to justify you know,
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the various crackdowns on a social media unfree expression that they already have in the pipelines. i mean, we will about the digital services act, the e u as adoptive, the constantly applying pressure against the social media. this is the best opportunity for it. so, um, you know, there is obviously that, that aspect of it, but they vision macros problem does. so if you of now said this over and over again, and that's at some point, you're going to be on the whole legally, and they use, the zillow industry is going to come to you. and you know, all the, the university policy makers, all the things like they come to you and say, well, this is the opportunity, you know, we go, we've got a real problem and i, and, and, and this is somebody gives it where else are they getting the other day if rusher wins in ukraine, then we are on this right? well, york is under threat of allows the guard is under threat. we cannot allow russians the when, so you settle this?
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well, you have pretty much coming up to the brain to saying, well, now we're a more and, and then, then what are you going to do? you go to sob, mobilizing the country and, well, you know, that's a good one. it has to be towards or like this and the, the, the, the of the okay, you're heading to was the disaster and have to wonder if friends of generals would even keep the call to be honest with you. okay. mine was go to the u. k. david cameron, the return of the, the walking dead is it were that as part of the secretary, his government took a show lacking and local elections. and he's saying that, you know, of the something like you're a guaranteed $3000000000.30 pounds a year for ukraine, adding per item here. i wonder why they lost those election. so go ahead. you know, with a lot of selections, because hardly anybody, even tories, that both of those kinds of disabilities have any confidence in this goldman to win the next to election. you know, we're all basically preparing for a length of victory, which is a disaster. so because i don't think leave
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a body of the are even the least on the issues that we're concerned about. yeah, i don't see a difference. yeah, i know. so, i mean it's so for david cameron, too. so spouses, you know, it's very difficult to, to, to consider, to think about david cameron without thinking of that terrible article that somebody wrote about him. where at each and a party does something quite basically with a picks head, but moving away from the house. that's so sexual x, i think he's really also cavities and days. and he noticed that in 6 months time is going to be out of a job. so it raises myself. what he said, obviously he's gonna support bite and, and this idea to the helps, you know, the, he's just put going on the rack or the saying, you know, the idea of, uh, friendship. so i'm a trips in the ukraine is completely out of the question because that which is spock a world war, but he doesn't come up with any oh, tons of cloud is still very concrete except the signing of more and more money unless they can us a huge on so your question, i think people are tired of these policies in the u. k,
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which doesn't make any sense, which doesn't add up a tool via politically into nicely away and domestically. you know, and i'm, well, i think the question we should ask ourselves in the u. k and into european union and america on we, on the cost of some massive political see change. you know, is there a new generation of politicians now going to be a should in what's happening in the okay. and you mentioned the collections is the, it seems to be a period of the little amount. so we're gonna have, i think, a lot small independent candidates, you know, and if, and if i'm not, if american gallery, joyce got enough, all the, my judge gallery are able to actually direct and media tools and we'll come themselves now to on your trade in israel. you know something quite size, but it can happen in the next one. i mean this, it brought, i agree with adding leach then sentiment. i agree with you, but you know, i'm going to go to george who is the a consummate pessimist here. um uh and he even is be the promotion for this program on this channel. george repeats the words, we have the tools,
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they have the tools george they have spent. they basically have all the cards and the deck, social media, censorship, shutting down ben use um there was a, a very famous um, uh, and they were um, some kind of palestinian surgeon that is, you know, just basically been made for simon and brought over at learning a to friends, and then they told them you can speak and literally put them on the late slide. they put them on an early what they did, and it's really nasty. these people are really nasty and they want to show their power in attempt intimidation and violence is their strongest. but the last card to play that absolutely. right. and then the other day i, i saw a story. oh, some german politician has been attacked physically as i thought, you know, but, but he was a green one, was a green politician. other was social democrat bought it immediately. german media off this as the other in a different deutschland support us behind it. we've been waiting for this bobby to be bad, the job and then you know, whether it is it because the pro russian is it because they're
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a threat to the monks? is it because the against the they, the guy's name addresses it because they've pro nazi but it's keeps coming. and so i think that's, that's how you deal with the, the opposition to just the use of, of being against them obviously. but on the go back to breaking the test, some of the old that's not going to be a bit of a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so charters at conflict with the 1st law show we live in to the patient. we should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously is to make a truck rather than fit the area with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody in the team and the
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most protect this phone existence was on the welcome back across i boulevards in peter labelle here. we are discussing some real bright george leads you. you were finishing up your answering the 1st part of the program, about descent and the tools of the state. keep the yes. i believe you have to just, i'm a little with that question before the end of the be prime minister. not only give a not expect any change when it comes to a foreign policy, it was the u. k. above is why the likely that it will mean the, the, the fact the re emergence of tony blair and tony blair is yes. okay. absolutely. front and center with the, with global is with the a obviously the you,
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the leaders and you know, is the, uh, begins eventually as the box allows me, is it still you do, i think is quite likely that'll be re living the glory days of the late ninety's and the early, early, early as of as a century. so it is this go intervention is um and mentality. it will continue. now the question is what, how, how does the public respond to that? but now we're, so we've seen in the u. k with a new friends in the united states. there is real real protests then. what's different about these protest um, as opposed to the uh, fraudulent bogus protest of 2020 of the summer of george floyd is that these protests are about something they're, they're, they're, they're against them. each dimension on, on behalf of israel,
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they're against this one on condition of support for the, for risk atrocities. and that demanding that the, the institutions this, those themselves divest from israel. that's something specific. that's not something a, i'm against the institutionalized. why braces of, you know, i, i'm, i'm against the police, you know, but just as nonsense a complete just to be pointless. self indulgence. so if you've got a, i'm a move, but that is about something. well, that's going to be quite interesting to see what it was then that's going to work, look, pressure on the, on governments and may lead to some sort shape. it's interesting to me, it would be martin if you look at the, the student protests across the western world. i mean, like i, you know, obviously if the issue of a, israel's genocidal acts against the palestinians and gods is in black. but i think, you know, in a broader sense, and it's something that we've talked many times and this part of them about is this is turning into just an anti establishment movement. because particularly when it
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was the young people of their, their avenues to move forward are very, very limited. and then you start taking, take talk away from them and things like that. and you know, the in there is the american context of the 1st amendment. but i think if we look at be made the student movements all across the world, it is anti establishment and it's got legs because george's right, this is about something. go ahead martin. yeah, i mean, students, by definition the, the young, an inquiry on the forming personalities themselves are developing and they tend to look for causes, you know, and you know, whether you have what you'll meet people in y'all's to is big enough on dos or whether, you know, you're fighting for well peace. i think the power, those are interesting to what happened 60 years ago. if we look at barclay and columbia, how the student purchase actually made an impact. they were identified today by the 2nd what x was as really where you began with the said end of the wedge. was this done some questioning? and i'm actually holding this document to the account actually did find the results
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in america putting in a vietnam typically competitive day. now we will do it slight different situation in the, in those lives, in the sixty's, you're gonna federal press 0 to really independent, strong group of general, se there who felt it was the jew, it seems to be, i just, i wish minutes a report on the bench going papers and i know, and i'm such for these days, i think the students took a more pressure on them, the biggest boy on them to make a difference because they know that was getting reported by, by, by the legacy of media is not the truth. and you know, so i think that's a real danger the, for the leads that these, these movements could really must from, into something, you know, be like, could be the only location the only place you go to, to get any kind of a sub, a comma tree about what's going on in israel and then america's role that, you know, it could be the last bastion, basically a free space. so was just based very closely, i think, between now and, and the new term starts. and you know,
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it could be very interesting to see how big these protests move those. um, you know, yeah. we, we do see the establishment, george fighting by this ridiculous bill that's going through car was now, is already been passed by the house going to the senate really just, i mean, i, and i mean, i mean we, we, you know, the member of the patriot act we are all thought this is, you know, calendar, the 1st amendment and 4th amendment. you know, i mean, this is all, this is on steroids right now. i mean, you and i have talked about this a guy like me, it's absurd, which is in that bill. it's absolutely absurd, and this is something that will be if it's a bed, it's directed it educational institutions. but when you put something on the books like this, it gets very elastic. and just going back to the 1st part of the program, the, the, the, the powers that be have an enormous array of tools. okay. it can take you out of the banking system like they did to the canadian truckers. i mean, yes, there is a difference between that, you know, in the sixty's, you know, they would be a men wanted to avoid the draft. they didn't want to go to vietnam. that's the
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draft is not the issue right now, but i would say the threats against descent are far greater now than an ever was in the 1960 in stuart. right. i agree completely, and that's why um, for such a movement to succeed, you would need really to mobilize um, as, as many of the opponents of the powers that be of the stablish worth as you can. but what is much really within the last couple of weeks is that the populace, right? which i think could easily make common cause with the, with the students with the protesters because they themselves have been subjected to attacking the populace. right. would or oppose to lowering your brain or oppose to cause that oppose to the deep stage of opposed to the crack downs on free speech . could easily make common cause with, with that because even if they don't necessarily agree with that view in the middle east, they'll say, well yeah, but you know, there are against basically intervention is getting into stupid was and so on. but
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instead, that is now well align themselves with the, the political establishment with the forces of the paintings again with that's really. and then you know, as a drunk, who you know, of a good diesel. a i've just said, yeah, because you know, i, i why sympathy is with them. it is that's it. yeah, yeah, that's up cracking head. so that's, that's cool in the police, you know, why, why as a these university presidents not cold in the police earlier. and that, and that means that it is essentially they, they walked into a trap where you can just simply pick people off, you just call them fascist the one day. it's trump, it is a photos or a fascist. and then the next day to clean up with a protest as of the universe the campus of passes. so every day you're deal 5 days, the fascist. and i think that's how you get to pick off the opposition. so thing was a great opportunity was ms in kind of in, in full,
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full make some kind of an alliance. yeah. but martin, they, the, it's, it's really quite pathetic to watch because you see this unbridled use of force against primarily civilians and gaza. and then the plethora videos of young people being attacked by the police, particularly that, that situation that and you see a light which apparently looked like vigilantes allowed onto the campus here. i mean, that's the one thing they had, you know, we could look at protests and we can look at for the various but the powers that be, have their unrestrained and using violence, they're the ones using violence. i'm just going to continue. unfortunately, you know, i mean the oil way. i carmen with the university in america. you might remind me in the sixty's where police actually have from 5 with live rounds. hey i'm, it's almost exactly what are the animal world university, i think, i mean, yeah, exactly. it is 54 years ago. yeah. so we're looking at this whole cycle now. is that going to be the thing that, i mean, i think what you mentioned earlier about the crack down free speech and how these countries develop into basically freshest regimes. where you know that,
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like china or like any of these countries that we look down on the last study is, you know, we've become like that now. and so free speech is going to be the real thing which is going to be around just completely. i'm wondering, was a, you know, the basic student protests going to be the perfect, the almost a gift wrapped. i guess the thing that the, the needs will shine a spotlight on a plane for everything. they'll be the escape codes. you know, and i think i can mix, i'm expecting, or date of other fake news of the full flag attacks. you know, it is quite easy to stage demonstrations. you are, if you want to mumps, feel if y'all to most does he that and he's and whether they be right with methods or whatever, i can see with this in the future. and i think the, i'm wondering with the student process, what will be that there will be the though that, well, they've been waiting for, you know, really something they can use and manufacturing more fake news. and of course, of great destruction statements for the, you know, in this age of cancelling,
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that means. so would georgia of a, particularly in the case of the united states american youth will be canceled and that'll be the reduction for it. okay. i mean, these, you know, you, we criticize these a leads through the, till the cows come home. but you, you never can deny that. they don't think big george. exactly. and when you look at these universities, they're in the business of raising money. and for them, do you think they've got math is, is, you know, who's got the big box and they look at the students and they don't know, big bucks. so that's the area that the exact does then that. so, you know, if it's bounds, you know, what do i keep, blackman happy holy the, but the politicians on capitol hill have it, or do i keep the students happy? it's no contests. the goal in the, the cost interesting, but what you said be the, the u. c. l a because that was the vigilant is it was a very well stage location. and as the new york times reveal the other day that one
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of the finance is all of this vigilante group of the us. c l a. was jerry seinfeld, wife. um. so you gotta get the celebrity active as of now the owners, the whole, the side of the tracking down those students because they knew exactly what they were doing. they were going to cause violence, which then trigger is a police response. so now you have this like you, so this deliberate is themselves, you know, somebody discovering the jewish lives, these absolute multi 1000000000 as well. you know, they've done made do these stupid jokes of stupid said comes over the years. oh that list. so jewish, they, they, they have to do what they can for israel. so they, you know, they're going to leave you my answer correct. now what their identity is, but they're very, very rich and really rich and get what they, what martin, it's a we have to point out to our viewers that, that southern california is a little crude, occupied territory. a lot of people don't know that, but they they, they, they, it's very strong that they look good at influencer. alas,
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20 seconds go to you, martin. go ahead. yeah, i say on the student process thing on the other thing that i found are interesting is that how a number of universe to campuses now have struck deals with the students. you know, a one has agreed that the american un 2nd sent into you and the bus of the doesn't speak. but at a conference that she was supposed to speak a long as a crate. offered narrow cultural center as okay. ok. maybe i'll get the money is on time. still the yeah, it's all the window dressing. if unfortunately, gentlemen, that time always flies too fast with run out at the moment. i think my guessing budapest in america should of course i'm gonna think it would be worse for watching us here. or do you see you next time? remember, across doubles, the
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